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Post by ulisesguerrero on Dec 22, 2015 16:24:08 GMT -5
Hare Kṛṣṇa Uttamasloka prabhu,
Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Śrī Guru and Gaurāṅga!
From the Sarartha Darshini commentary, I read the following:
"Higher than Vaikuntha or even Goloka, Kṛṣṇa will grant them Bhauma Vrndavana which is the most attractive of all." [Killing Putana chapter text 39-40 Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam Purport]
As far as I understood it was Goloka the highest destination. Which is the proper understanding?
Hare Kṛṣṇa!
Ulises Guerrero
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Post by Uttamasloka on Dec 22, 2015 22:24:39 GMT -5
In Visvanatha Cakravarti Thakura's commentary to the previous verses, 10.6.37-38, he states:
"Which Vaikuntha planet did Putana attain. The verse explains that Putana attained Goloka, but her position was predominated by happiness and reverence. She did not attain the place predominated by service in prema. One cannot say that she attained the status of a mother. Verse 10.6.36 says that place is reserved for those who are anuragi, with pure loving attachment for Krsna.
...Thus, in the present verse some interpret the word janani (mother) to be dhatri (nurse). But even then one should not say that Putana was a direct nurse of Krsna. Rather, she attained a form like a nurse in a Goloka filled with sukhaisvarya, reverential happiness."
Based on these statements, my understanding is that the reference to Bhauma Vrindavana indicates that innermost realm of Goloka where the lila is fully human-like, ie: bhauma, and where the highest manifestations of prema and rasa are experienced, due to the absence of aisvarya. There is another Goloka which has elements of aisvarya, so it is not as intimate, and that is where Putana went.
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Post by lal on Dec 22, 2015 23:12:40 GMT -5
Yes, what Uttamasloka said, and also Visvanath teaches that after attaining madhurya-bhava in Vraja rasa one first takes birth in Bhauma lila as a gopi, he is comparing that attainment to other types of bhavas in Goloka - it is not a comparison between places, it is a comparison between bhava, even though it is worded like that in that translation.
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Post by ulisesguerrero on Dec 24, 2015 22:18:08 GMT -5
Is this the reason we say "Goloka Vrndavana"? Just saying Goloka is not specific enough, since it has a broader/wider scope?
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Post by Uttamasloka on Dec 25, 2015 2:05:04 GMT -5
There is actually a spiritual realm/planet within this material universe called Goloka, and it is said there are countless Surabhi cows there Thus the name Go-loka. It is also said that the most intimate part of Goloka Vrndavana in the spiritual world is Gokula, which is also the name of Vrndavana in bhauma-lila.
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